“Sa dami ng kanyang sinabi sa kanyang narration, naalala ko sa batas may legal principle tayo – false in one, false in everything (With his numerous statements and narrations, a legal principle came to mind – false in one, false in everything),” said Lacson.

The senator also warned Matobato that he can go to prison due to inconsistencies in his statements. “Pwede kayong makulong dito (You can be jailed here)… you are under oath,” he said.

Matobato’s Inconsistencies

Senator Tito Sotto cast doubts to Matobato’s repeated glancing at his notes but uttering inconsistencies in his statements.

“He kept on looking at his notes then reversing what he said after,” the senator said.

Senator Lacson questioned Matobato of Sali Makdum’s existence as no name and details appeared about the person when he searched it online. Senator Lacson also found it suspicious when Matobato could not decipher if the year when Sali Makdum was killed was 2002 when he had already mentioned earlier that it was 2002.

“Hindi ako nag-coordinate kay General Dela Rosa, Puwede tanungin kung kilala mo ito? Lumalabas hindi pala niya kilala. Medyo nag-iba ang demeanor ni Edgar Matobato. Di niya maalala ang taon, di malaman kung 2002 pero sabi niya 2002,” Lacson said. (I did not coordinate with General Dela Rosa, I could have asked him if he knows him. It appears he does not know him. Edgar Matobato changed his demeanor. He could not remember the year, he could not remember if it was 2002 but he earlier said it’s 2002.)

Matobato told Senator Leila De Lima during the hearing that Duterte ordered her ambush in 2003.

However, Senator De Lima corrected him that the year was 2009, not 2003.

Upon first questioning, Matobato said that his salary as a ghost employee was Php3000. But he answered Php5000 the second time he was asked.

De Lima defends Matobato despite inconsistencies

Despite critics from fellow senators in the Senate hearing, De Lima remained to attest the credibility of her witness.

“Ang talagang impression ko sa kanya, na hirap siya sa mga dates… pero it doesn’t mean na nagsisinungaling siya (My impression of him is that he has this difficulty to remember dates but it doesn’t mean he is lying),” De Lima said.

She further defended by saying “It doesn’t mean hindi na totoo ‘yung kuwento niya doon sa nangyari o mga nangyari, doon sa mga pagpatay. Kasi alam ninyo naman, detalyado din ‘yung mga kuwento niya. Ang feeling ko nga baka may ilan-ilan pang insidente na hindi pa niya nasabi. (It does not mean that his story on what happened, on the killings, is not true. Because as you know, his story is also detailed. My feeling is that there may be some incidents he has not narrated yet.)

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